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their cards on the table unveiling their fiscal cliff counteroffer to president obama. does it actually have a chance though? will the president and congressional democrats just blow it right out of the sky? we'll break it all down. >>> plus the mississippi river in crisis. water levels dropped to historic lows threatening to bring commercial traffic to a halt and spike food prices. have you even heard about this? the head of one mississippi barge operator joins us whether a disaster can still be avoided. >>> would you sublet your name for an entire year? a bidding war breaks t for e right to one man's name. he is here to explain his bold idea and how he is cashing in. even when they say it's not it is always about money melissa: first let egg look at the day's market headlines. concern over the fiscal cliff bleeding into the u.s. manufacturing sector. factory activity in november declined for the first time in three months. the news weighted down stocks helping shed 59 points off the dow the raw materials sector hit hard by the contraction in manufacturing. shares of dupont were the biggest
try this over the cliff. barack obama, as originally the grand bargain one and 0 billion in tax cuts. then he won the election. now he wants to increase it to over one half trillion. he has double down on all of these things. if you go back historically in this whole program, you might remember roy reagan, $3 in spending cuts for every dollar in new taxes. we get the taxes but ronald reagan never get the spending cuts. orge bush lost an ection in '92. he raised taxes on the democrats promised him $2 in spending cuts for every dollar in new taxes. george bush is still waitin for those $2 in spending cuts. now the present is saying to live in give you two and a half to one. it's time the democrats and the president stepped up and cut spding. gerri: to that point. want you to respond to what the white house had to say in response to the republicans offer and then go to michael's point about what you will actually get latr. here is what dan pfeiffer said. it promises to lower rates for the wealthy and stickhe middle-claas with the bill. we could do it pinocchio test. is that true or fals
. >> eric: we are hurling toward the fiscal cliff. what does obama like to do? he spent the evening -- that is from 2011. he spent the evening at the kekennedy center hanging out with led zeppelin, robert plant, jimmy page. who else is there? dustin hoffman. stay in thous and get something done. >> dana: boon and crockett annual dinner, 125th anniversary. at the museum of natural history. you have to visit if you can. the project manager refurbished a ma ma'am exhibit and two-year project and it's spectacular. bob, you like the five and i said i would bring you to see it. amazing. you could learn a lot. greatest thing about the wildlife and sportsmanship. >> bob: let's hear more about greg's book. >> greg: a lovely woman i met on tour. this is rachel's mother. rachel was the chick-fil-a clerk who was harassed by that jerk. showed incredible
's opening offer to avert the fiscal cliff. he did it in a tv interview. what does president obama think of speaker boehner's proposal to avert the fiscal cliff? >> unfortunately, the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. he talks about $800 billion worth of revenues but says he's going to do that by lowering rates. when you look at the math, it doesn't work. >> reporter: he won't agree to eliminate a tax deduction for contributions to charity. >> every hospital and university and nonfor profit agency across the country would find themselves on the verge of collapse. so that's not a realistic option. >> reporter: but the president didn't say all this to speaker boehner. he said it in an interview on bloomberg tv. the last time the two men spoke was almost a week ago. president obama is focused on the stalemate with congress over averting the fiscal cliff, but he's just not talking to house republicans about it. at the white house, he discussed the issue with a bipartisan group of governors. >> i know that the president wants a deal and he didn't try to handicap it. >> rep
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house is leveling the republican counteroffer to avert the fiscal cliff. president obama try this and saying there is no deal without tax hikes on the ridge. with more on this, republican congresswoman dianne black of tennessee. welcome to the show. great to have you. i have to ask you about this story that has been breaking this afternoon. apparently the president will meet with what they're calling progressive talk-show hosts. i think this is a lot of talent. it will parade through the white house. the president will sit down with them. are you getting the sense here that maybe the president is meeting with a few too many people? should we jjst get the job on the fiscal cliff? >> i could not agree more. i felt very discouraged. the president this been more time campaigning that he did of the beginning of his campaign. we need to have serious negotiations. we need our leaders, and the president was elected by the people. he needs to sit down now and the leader along with our leader, the speaker, and talk seriously about these plans. gerri: small business, big business. the
to avoid the year end fiscal cliff. >>> and president obama is meeting with a group u.s. governors today around 10:00 a.m. eastern. it includes jack markell, mary fallon, scott walker. the governors will discuss how the fiscal cliff will impact their states and possible solutions. it's also expected to meet with house republicans, as well, this week. >>> and oracle is amongst the latest of speeding up their dividend pay outs to avoid possible tax hikes because of the fiscal cliff. they will pay dividends a total of 18 cents a share for the next three quarters. larry ellison didn't take part in the decision, but he will benefit. he own as 23% stake in the company, so he'll receive around $198 million. yes, you heard it right. oracle stock down 0.8% despite that in frankfurt. still to come, interest rates in australia are moving down. down under. find out what central bank is worried about when we come back. >>> australia central bank held its rate setting meeting. matthew taylor has the details. >> the market had been pricing in a 25 basis point rate cut and the reserve bank delivered wit
-offer in fiscal cliff negotiations with president obama takes away a white house argument that the republicans have no plan and puts medicare on the table for discussion. the republican counter-offer would raise $800 billion through tax reform and cut $600 billion from federal health programs, including raising medicare eligibility, another $600 billion cut from mandatory and discretionary spending, and factor inflation less in calculating social security benefits. "what we're putting forth is a credible plan that deserves serious consideration by the white house." in a three-page letter to the president calling democratic gains in the senate and mr. obama's victory a "status quo election," the republican proposal would raise half the amount as the president's plan and save $350 billion from medicare and medicaid. however, at the chicago fed, a gathering of 39 individuals from banking and manufacturing industries - including automakers and other sectors - say the economy is strong enough - barely - to withstand either party's direction. "the vast majority think the fiscal cliff's impact will n
the so-called fiscal cliff. this morning president obama will host some of the nation's governors to spread his message. the president wants to raise 1.6 trillion in revenue by increasing taxes on the top 2% of income earners. republicans counted with a 2.2 trillion dollar deficit reduction plan, 800 billion dollars in revenue, but didn't call for raising tax rates on wealthy. the proposal was quickly ejected with the white house. >>> new -- rejected by the white house. >>> new poll shows -- gallup asked americans to rate honesty and ethical standards car salesmen got lowest marks 8% marked them high or very high. congress is just above them, only 10% scored in the top two categories to be honest. journalists 24%. top of the rankings, nurses, 84% of americans gave them the highest marks and of course meteorologists right behind that >> i was going to say even though it is not darn -- not a 100% science -- [ talking over each other ] >> 100% science that has accuracy, a little less -- okay stop digging. [ talking over each other ] >> they didn't rate meteorologists i wonder who is
are not discussing this with me. >> the white house is rejecting the latest republican cliff proposal. they have a counteroffer to the one president barack obama proposed. coming up, what the white house says is missing in the republican proposal. >>> also this morning, they will meet with the bipartisan group and reportedly they met with congress to work on a solution to the fiscal cliff. in the afternoon they will meet with house speaker john boehner and governor jerry brown is not in that group. >>> tara is back, you know all about our commute, what is happening in pacifica. >>> well, to the northport tall bridge, they are able to stabilize that weak spot. right now we will take a live look headlights are flowing nicely as you make your way towards the mcarthur maze. up next, we have 880 up near the oakland coliseum, same story staff is flowing very nicely. it is dark up there but take my word for it, traffic is flowing nicely, 5:07 let's check with steve. >>> ukiah announced they can't hold a candle to what was there. heavier amounts will not be to the north. any rain on already saturated so
's not likely that president obama will get to sign his own fiscal cliff plan since the republicans and democrats don't like it. the measure was defeated 99-nothing. west virginia senator says that both sides aren't going far enough when it comes to cuts. >> they are lower than what everyone says we need. all economists say we need minimum of $4 trillion or greater swing. >> i don't know how we got off-track of what we need to fix this. >> it will be tough for the 20 senate democrats facing re-election. such as begoch and maryland land and mark pryor from conservative states. the top republicans say the president's span not serious. >> comes out with a proposal to raise taxes by $1.6 trillion. has unlimited authority to borrow more money. >> chuck schumer says he prefers to set the bar at $1 million. they have smart cuts to ask the millionaires to pay their fair shares. $60% of americans want millionaires to pay more. >> democrats hope this addres addresses the estate tax. increase it from 35% to 40 packet and lower protected to $5 million. framly farms or ranchs and that could be h
that he hold. obama has the advantage of letting--going over the cliff and letting it all expire so he starts to get the revenue that he wants. what does boehner have to negotiate? j. >> cenk: this is dr. strangelove territory. this is peter sellers pushing the button. you do this, and you destroy yourself. it's an insane negotiating ploy. it's hard to think that he could push that button. he used it last year and there was a consensus that politically that republicans lost face and lost public support and they were playing with fire. am i misreading this? >> no, because i think part of it, again, we're talking about the markets. it strikes fear in the markets. they say, president obama you better do something because the stock markets and the bond markets are reacting negatively to all these issues about the debt ceiling. but we saw what happened after august of 2011 we got downgraded. our debt was downgraded but the interest rates that we pay on our debt has fallen. the stock market has continued to rise. i think if we had that drama again, the treasury department has options. there
at the white house, president obama talking about the fiscal cliff. john? >> i wanted to play a soundbite from the bloomberg interview that i mentioned to sue a few minutes ago. one yes offered a carrot to say if you do that in the short term, put revenue on the table concretely in that way, we will have a long process of tax entitlement reform that could end up reducing the rate in 2013. here is the president. >> not able to come up with a comprehensive tax reform package that gets it all done just in the next two weeks. we are not going to be able to come one necessarily comprehensive entitlement reform package that gets it all done in the next two weeks. when you luke at what ronald reagan did back in 1986, working with bill bradley and others, that was a year and a half process. what i have suggested is let's essentially put a down payment on taxes, let's let tax rates on the upper income folks go up. >> now, the difficulty of tax reform has been a concern of the white house throughout this discussion, all the way back to 2011. it's why they insisted on the top rates going up. at that time
, there will still be slavery. >> that's the shocking claim of aan anonymous top obama advisor. >>> i believe it's safer to go over the fiscal cliff. >> do the democrats secretly want to plunge over the fiscal cliff? we'll examine the growing evidence that indicates this may be obama's secret plan. we'll have much more. hannity starts right here, right now. >> welcome to hannity. there are late breaking developments tonight related to the fiscal cliff battle being waged in washington. now, late this afternoon house speaker john boehner sent a letter to the president detailing a bold counter offer to the administration's plan. the g.o.p. proposal does not include a tax increase on the so-caldwell thee but does contain $800 billion in revenue through tax reform, another $600 billion in health savings and much more. all told, the net savings amount to around 2.2 trillion dollars. the white house responded to this letter by saying that the president is, quote, willing to compromise but not on the subject of making job creators pay more in taxes. however, what our tax and spend commander-in-chief fai
if we do go off the cliff. >> tea party 2 is going to dwarf tea party one if obama pushes us off the cliff. let's not pretend who's pushing us offer the cliff. >> but continuing to insist that the president does have the better argument. >> at the end of the day, president obama is selling a very simple message. i want to keep taxes low for middle class americans and i'm worry are in the position of looking as if they don't care about the middle class and just want to keep tax rates low for wealthy americans. >> krystal, it's grover norquist versus the polls, actually, the polls actually tell us -- a new cnn poll shows that 45% of americans would blame congressional republicans if no deal is reached and 34% would blame president obama. i don't think grover is going to turn that around. >> no, i don't think grover is going to turn that around and i don't think that he's right that tea party 2 will dwarf tea party 1. >> he is so wrong. >> but i do think that there is true to the fact that there is already a backlash from the ultra right, grassroot tea partyiers that are still out t
was that the majority of americans agreed with president obama's vision of one of the ways to fix the fiscal cliff had to be to put new revenues and raise the tax rates of the wealthiest americans. [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> cenk: so taking this case to the american people fighting strong, making his own case which he we've been asking him to do for four straight years. my reaction was this. >> flabbergasted. [ laughing ] >> cenk: what's your reaction. >> slightly flabbergasted because this is not how the president has worked before. he ran with a grassroots in 2008. we tried to recreate that, talked about the ground game in the campaign in 2012. he's taking a grassroots campaign to politics, which is what progressives have been begging him to do now for a while. it seems to be working. all the hash tags and all the my 2 k has tags has gotten up to 13,000 tweets per hour. not every one of them is, hey great idea, mr. president. a lot of them are coming from people who are conservatives saying whatever it is that they're saying. the point is he's in touch with the people. he's not living in a cocoon like he
of congress and president obama if they can't avoid the fiscal cliff. the petition's chances are slim. but it's a reflection of americans' frustration with 28 days left. rob and paula? >> tahman bradley live in washington today. thank you, tahman. >>> and as talks over the fiscal cliff drag on, a new poll finds that most americans do not think very highly of congress. one in ten americans rate the honesty and ethical standards of its members as very high or high. this puts the law making body, second-lowest on the list of 22 professions. higher only than car sales people. >> how telling is that? >> that's an indictment. >>> and another nasty storm is drenching the west coast, from northern california, into portland and seattle. this is the fourth big rainmaker to hit that area in a week. and this time, it could dump up to five inches of rain and cause even more flooding and destruction. abc's brandi hitt has the latest. >> reporter: after several days of drenching rain, downed trees, flooding and rockslides, families throughout the west are finally getting a break in the severe weather to cle
president barack obama to work on the fiscal cliff. they will meet with house speaker john boehner, governor jerry brown is actually not in the group. >>> white house is rejecting the republican fiscal proposal. and it is a counteroffer to the one president barack obama offered last week. coming up, what the white house says is missing in the republican proposal. >>> time now time to bring tara back. if anybody is headed for the bay bridge, what do you want them to know. >> if we take a live look, this happens in just a matter of minutes and i bet you it is going on right now. so give yourself extra time if you are headed into the city right now. we can show you 580 westbound and then also up in the pittsburgh antioch area, slow going there on highway 4 as you make your way towards concord. last but not least, 280 san jose and traffic is moving along pretty well. 6:07 here is steve. >>> cloudy skies, now last hour, there has been some light rain in mendocino and down to salina, it is cloudy and a few areas of fog. this system is considerably weaker than the one we have and it looks like we w
another meeting. today president obama meeting with governors on the fiscal cliff talks so what is really going on behind the scenes? well, i will tell you what, we'll ask governor gary herbert of utah. he actually met with the president so we'll get a first-hand account. tracy: yeah, that will be interesting. is red tape standing in the way of a housing recovery? will foreclosures bog down in court proceedings? our very own judge napolitano is here to give us the scoop on that. ashley: plus, say it ain't so. the bubbly is losing its physician. the champagne industry suffering from a hangover from europe's economic woes. there hasn't been a lot of celebrating across the pond lately. we'll have more. tracy: i wonder if europe is drinking wine instead? ashley: they're drinking something. they will never give that up. tracy: they do it in church, heck. all right, top of the hour, time for stocks as we do every 15 minutes. we head down to nicole petallides on the floor of the new york stock exchange. girl, we are, as ashley said, drifting and it is all because of washington, isn't it? >> ther
on the fiscal cliff. president obama and the democrats have put forward a plan relying mostly on raising more revenue from the wealthiest 2% of the country. republicans rely mostly on draconian cuts affecting the middle class and the poor and republicans aren't specific about how they get $800 billion in revenue. for the conversation, let's turn to richard wolffe, msnbc political analyst and vice president and executive director of msnbc.com. and molly ball, political reporter for "the atlantic." the republican proposal includes ryan's voucher program for medicare. we're not even a month away from the election and they are throwing up on the wall everything that was rejected. why are they doing this? >> well, i can tell you why they think they have a mandate. they are throwing insults at each other and that means they are engaging. they may be way apart in terms of the lessons learned. think -- they clearly don't seem to have learned very many from this election. but house republicans have put in their initial offer here. and you know, the problem for house republicans is not only have they n
republicans sent president obama a new offer to avoid the fiscal cliff, a counter offer to president obama's plan, proposing raising $800 billion from tax reform, not higher tax rates. but the white house immediately slammed the offer and said it won't even consider it. tonight, speaker boehner's response to the white house response, saying it's up to the president to come up with a plan. allen west is here. good evening. >> good evening. >> your thoughts, apparently the white house is unimpressed with the proposal by the speakert and white house republicans? >> i think the white house needs to do case studies, calvin coolidge and president john f. kennedy, when you look at what they did with lowering tax rates and increase revenues. calvin coolidge went from 73% to 24%. john f. kennedy from 91% to 71%. they increased revenues. we are not talking about what the president is looking at with his wealth redistribution, we are talking about wealth expansion, economic growth and sound policies to do that. if you want to continue to believe that $250,000 makes someone rich, you are going to crus
: president obama discussing the fiscal cliff, and, plus, speaking live to the iowa governor, his state facing a double whammy if we go over the cliff. what compromises he'd love to see come out of washington, and how he believes they could reach them. this is a guy who deals with the democratic senate, so, really, he knows how to cross the aisle to make it happen. david: somebody else you know about, with all the talk about tax increases, the idea of a simple flat tax dead? we'll see. forbes doesn't think so. there's a news conference along with washington lawmakers to push for the flat tax. he joins us later this hour. liz: first, what drove the marketings for today's data download. stocks ending lower, struggling for direction most of the day, unable to hold gains trading lower. i think it was 79 times. health care and industrials were today's top performing sectors and telecomo lagged. the euro extending the gains versus the dollar, rallying to a near seven week high against the green back after greece announced its debt buy back terms. euro rose to a $1131. that's high historically. actio
, the sooner we can avoid the fiscal cliff. obama and his allies are less willing to look at these benefits programs after his election last month. >> yeah. >> stephanie: obama possesses far more leverage than he did in the budget talks with boner last year. here we go again, right. >> you act like you won or something. >> stephanie: okay. all right. rhone in chicago. >> caller: hi, stephanie. first time caller so i'm glad i get a chance to get in and talk with you. >> stephanie: okay. >> caller: so many things to talk about, but i wanted to talk about the extremism that i see in the republican party. for me i'm an infantry officer, a software engineer. i have gone from voting republican and i lose myself as moderate republican, and conservative democrat somewhere in that -- >> stephanie: in the nuggety center. >> caller: yeah. the way this election has gone it has turned me very much to the left. the way the republicans have acted, they are turned me off from their party all together. >> stephanie: we welcome you into the soft cocoon of socialism. [♪ mysterious music
are headed here to washington today to tell president obama their thoughts on the fiscal cliff. the bipartisan group says both sides need to work together to avoid the tax increases and spending cuts due to kick in at the end of the year. >> no one's going to get what they want, but as a country to move forward, we've got to figure out who gives where, and if everything is going to be out on the table, how do we negotiate that? >> reporter: republicans have given a counterproposal to the president's plan which he issued last week. they say their plan would cut $2.2 trillion from the federal deficit over ten years. with $600 billion in health care cuts, $300 billion in cuts to mandatory spending and another $300 billion in cuts to other federal spending. the biggest difference between the republican plan and the president's remains taxes and how the government can generate more revenue to pay down the debt. >> rates have to rise on the top 2%. there's no other way to do it. >> reporter: president obama says his plan will raise taxes on the rich, bringing in $1.6 trillion. republ
obama their thoughts on the "fiscal cliff." the bipartisan group says both sides need to work together to avoid the tax increases and spending cuts due to kick in at the end of the year. >> no one is going to get what they want. but we have to compromise. if everything is going to be on the table, how do we negotiate? >> reporter: republicans have given a counterproposal to the president's plan which he issued last week. they say their plan would cut $2 .2 trillion from the federal deficit over 10 years. but $600 billion in healthcare cuts, $300 billion in cuts to mandatory spending, and another $300 billion in cuts to other federal spending. the biggest difference between the republican plan and the president's remains taxes and how the government can generate more revenue to pay down the debt. >> rates have to rise on the top 2%. there's no other way to do it. >> reporter: president obama says his plan will raise taxes on the rich bringing in 1.6 trillion. republicans want to close tax loopholes and eliminate deductions to raise $800 billion in new revenue. >> the president has a hug
at the white house with president obama to discuss, what else? the fiscal cliff. states would be severely impacted because much of their revenue comes from the federal government. cnn white house correspondent dan lothian is at the white house. so, dan, who is trying to convince who? >> well, i think it's a little bit of both here. you have the president trying to sort of put pressure on them, if you will, these governors, to then they in turn should put pressure ontheir lawmakers to get a deal done. at the time the governors are here to let the president know there's some real consequences if this scenario plays out. a third of states out there get their revenue from federal grants according to a pew report, and that report also points out that states like virginia, for example, would be heavily impacted. why virginia? because it has a lot of military defense contractors. they're saying that they could be impacted to the tune of about $10 billion in economic activity falling. in addition to that, 120,000 jobs lost. take a look at a state like south dakota, for example. a very small state
this. >> i think people forget there are lots of fiscal cliff taxes, but just what president obama wallets and, you know, forget about the fiscal cliff, what his mandate is, essentially, forces a lot of taxes, including income tax increases. if you look at obamacare, there's a surcharge on income. and, you know, it's pretty scary between that and the capital gains, we're talking about, you know, we're talking about hitting people with a huge tax bill. and we should point out that this is the alleged rich, the millionaires and billionaires who make $200,000 a year. martha: right, exactly. exactly right. [laughter] you know, if you live in a metropolitan area really anywhere across the country and you make $200,000 if you're an individual, $250,000 together if you're a couple and you have any investments, right? >> any investments, but also even if you don't have investments, i think there's a surcharge on income here, which, you know, aside from that. and i'll tell you, this is the real sort offedty of -- oddity of obama taxes and the sort of silence of new york politicians. kirsten
you for that reporting from washington. >>> president obama talking about the fiscal cliff. in his first television interview since the election, that cliff, of course the combination of government spending cuts and tax increases that automatically go into effect on january 1st because people we elected to make a deal can't make a deal. yesterday, republicans proposed steep spending cuts but gave no ground on president obama's call to raise taxes on the wealthiest americans. here's what the president told bloomberg's white house correspondent about that. >> unfortunately the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. you know he talks, for example, about $800 billion worth of revenue but was he says he's going to do that by lowering rates. when you look at the platte it doesn't work. when i've said is, i am prepared to work with the speaker and democrats and republicans to go after excessive health care costs in our federal health care system, we're going to have to strengthen those systems and i think we can do that without hurting seniors, without hurting beneficiaries
isn't even a start. six governors, democrats, and republicans weigh in on the fiscal cliff today. what will they tell president obama about the spending cuts and tax increases now just 28 days away? >> we must reign in our out of control spending. >> reporter: republicans have an offer, $800 billion in new taxes, half what the president wanted. $600 billion saved in part by making americans wait until they're 67 to get medicare. plus more cuts totalling $2.2 trillion. but no tax hikes for the wealthy. >> that's just not going to happen. >> reporter: the pentagon could take the biggest hit from president obama told defense experts monday, don't worry. >> even as we make very tough fiscal choices, we're going to keep investing in these programs. >> reporter: he went online on youtube and twitter explaining why he thinks the rich should pay more. going over the fiscal cliff could cost america jobs. >> we're only expanding 2% right now. it needs to be considerably higher to bring more people off unemployment. >> reporter: for the jobless, president obama is asking congress for millions mor
. how the cliff hanger will affect the family finances. >> president obama says the world is watching. his warning world is watching. his warning tonight to well, well, well. growing up, we didn't have u-verse. we couldn't record four shows at the same time. in my day, you were lucky if you could record two shows. and if mom was recording her dumb show and dad was recording his dumb show then, by george, that's all we watched. and we liked it! today's kids got it so good. [ male announcer ] get u-verse tv with a total home dvr included free for life. only $29 a month for six months. rethink possible. >> good evening once again. start this half hour in washington where less than a month to go now until u.s. could face massive spending cuts and tax increases known as the fiscal cliff. they are talking about it in washington. today congressional republicans put forward alternative to the president plan. but tonight we are no closer to a deal. political reporter mark matthews explains what that means. >> san francisco cafe owner has been watching the cliff creep closer an hoping f
nottingham in washington. coming up, president obama consults a group of the nation's governors on the "fiscal cliff." >> and well wishes are pouring in for will and kate as brits make bets on whether it will be a boy, girl, twins or triplets. >>> hi, i'm meteorologist lawrence karnow live at the whole foods market in cupertino. if you have been looking for a way to help people for the holidays, we have a great idea for you plus we'll talk about that rain coming back all that in just a few minutes. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, typhoon in the philippines. 33 villagers wer >>> at least 74 people are dead or missing following a powerful typhoon in the philippines. >> 33 villagers all swept way after a massive wave hit their emergency shelter there. the storm brought in 160-mile- per-hour winds ashore toppling trees and causing widespread power outages. >>> syrian violence is deadly for schoolchildren. state media reports 29 students and a teacher were killed when a mortar slammed into their school outside damascus. the report blames terrorists a term the government uses for rebels. >>> this i
.com/pricerewind. >>> today in his first interview since winning re-election, president obama talked about the fiscal cliff standoff. he put his foot down on what is negotiable and what is not. >> we have to say the rates on the top 2% go up. and we're not going to get a deal without it. understand the reason for that. it's not me being stubborn. it's not me being partisan. it's just a matter of math. i'm happy to entertain other ideas the republicans may present, but we are not going to cut our way to prosperity or cut our way out of the deficit problem we have. >> so, are we on the verge of something big, something that could really change our politics? joining me now, senator barbara boxer, democrat from california and whip of the senate. thank you for being on the show. >> i love being on your show. thank you. >> if the gop agrees to tax increases, how important might that be in terms of showing they actually are capable of working with the president? >> you know, the way they raised the question, if they agree to tax increases, they claim they're willing to do these loop-hole closers but the differenc
cliff. this morning president obama will host some of nation's governors to spread his message. the president wants to raise 1.6 trillion in revenue by increasing taxes on top 2% of income earners. republicans countered with plan it would raise 800 billion dollars in revenue but doesn't call for raising tax rates on the wealthy the proposal was quickly rejected by the white house. >>> if you plan to fly anywhere for the holiday, book your flight right away. >> here's jane king with the bloomberg business report. >>> good morning. if you are thinking of flying over the holidays and don't have a ticket yes, book fast. airfares are up 4% compared to last year now that advanced purchase window can keep costs down if you buy 21 days in advance. if you are looking to save, christmas day airfares are cheaper along with december 27th and 31st, 17th and 18, may be good. congress gearing up to overall haul student loan debt collection wisconsin representative expected to introduce a measure this week that would require employers to withhold payments to pay back the loan. watch for e-mail
a little bit. obama's plan for the fiscal cliff includes 400 billion or so in unspecified cuts, while the republicans have offered 800 billion in unspecified higher tax revenues. has either side gotten specific enough for you guys? >> they haven't gotten specific enough yet, but they both staked out positions that are imminently compromisable. there's good common ground there. what's preventing that? the republicans saying we'll never raise taxes. the problem is taxes are scheduled to go up. they can't say no to that. they will go up. the only real question for the obstructionists in the republican party is, seriously, you're going to block atax cut? that's what it is. >> i want to play some sound from our friend david gergen on cnn yesterday and get you to comment. >> since this election i think the democrats are the ones who are really trying to rub it in and almost humiliate the republicans, and that's not going to get to a bargain. i think it has to be win-win. you hear among some democrats right now and it's disturbing that maybe just ought to take it over the cliff. we'll score
a new offer to avoid the fiscal cliff. it is a counter offer to president obama's plan. g.o.p. lawmakers proposed raising $800 billion in revenue from tax reform, not higher tax rates, but the white house immediately slammed the offer and said it won't even consider it, and tonight speaker boehner responds to the white house response saying it's now up to the president to come up with a plan. congressman allen west joins us. good evening. >> how are you doing? >> greta: very well. the white house is unimpressed by the proposal from the speaker and the white house republicans. >> the white house needs to go back and do case studies whe. you look at presidents cool imagidgeand kennedy, they went % down to 24%. kennedy went from 91% down to 71% and they increased revenue. what we're talking about is not what the president of the united states is looking at with wealth redistribution. we're talking about wealth expansion and economic growth and sound economic policies to do that. if you want to continue to believe that 250,000 dollars makes someone rich, you're going to crush these small bus
. they want to urge president obama to work with congress on a solution to the fiscal cliff. in the afternoon, the same group of governors will meet with john boehner. california governor jerry brown is not among the group. >>> 7:15. the owner of the drake's bay oyster company is plotting a legal response to the federal decision to shut down his operation. he said he will not give up. the operating permit expired last month at the national seashore. the company was told it will have to leave within 90 days and that area will return to wilderness. >>> oakland's largest pot club gets a key victory in court. a judge ruled that harborside medical center cannot be ejected and they cannot kick them out because it is not breaking state law. now, the landlord will decide again in federal court on december 20th. she wants them out because a federal prosecutor is threatening to seize the property. >>> southern california leaders are demanding that the county be reimbursed for more than $12,000. "the san jose mercury news" show that he used a tax-funded credit card to pay for casino stays, rental car up
higher taxes to that. tea party two is going to dwarf tea party one if obama pushes us off the cliff. >> there's a dr. strangelove. how many republicans will be willing to stand up to that threat? david corn is here to talk about it, the washington bureau chief for mother jones and the author of "47 percent." he's a member of the gridiron society. and john feehery is a republican strategist. grover -- you're playing defense here -- one man elected to nothing. the fact that saxby chambliss comes up, i don't have to live up to some pledge i made 20 years ago and calls up and has grover on the phone going through the transcript of what he said and he's apologizing for each segment of it. what's going on? a senator has to kiss butt to this guy? >> i have known grover for a long time, and i like him, and he's representing -- >> you're afraid of him, too. >> i'm not afraid of him. he represents a cause, and he's been amazingly successful because taxes have gone down for a long time because of grover. the question is, what do we do now because taxes are automatically going up. republicans u
] stuart: moving along, republicans counteroffer to president obama's solution to the fiscal cliff yesterday with a plan of 800 billion dollars in new revenue from tax reform, not from higher tax rates. plus, about a trillion dollars in spending cuts. speaker john boehner said the president's plan just wouldn't pass. unfortunately, the white house responded with their la-la land offer that couldn't pass the house. so basically they are at odds. david, here's what i've got, here's my calculation, rough back of the envelope, okay? when i can find the envelope. okay? it is president obama wants 800 billion dollars more in tax revenue from the rich in the form of higher tax rates. the republicans want about a trillion dollars more in spending cuts. david: uh-huh. stuart: the two sides are those dollar numbers apart. and you say what? david: i say i don't think the president cares if it passes the house. because if it passes, he gets everything he wants. he doubled the amount of tax income he wanted from the private sector because he wants many r in his proposal. -- he wants more in his
had quite enough of that. >> talk about finances. lou: in a way, turning to fisca cliff, watching joh john boehned president obama, play out on a national stage, a game that i'm not sure that media gets or perhaps they. as astute as they are. this is risking everything for a lot of people. what do you make of it? and their attitudes, their demeanor? >> it sounds like everybody is trying to be right, that is interfering with negotiating that needs to happen for what is best for our country and the people who live a love this untry. >> in some ways almost a testosterone contest, you do sothing, i'm going to do something better, this is not about winning for the american people, it is about winning for the party, -- >> the mighty ego. >> i can do it betterhan you it has to be who wins and who loses. >>> it is unsettling for the american people, it interferes with the american people in terms of spending. >> except the american people have come to accept this, they are not that bothered of by it any more, they are used to the game of chicken. lou: but looking at projects, talking about 10
gregory literally asked do you think president obama should bring mitt romney in to negotiate the fiscal cliff. >> caller: i think my brain unattached from my spine when i heard that. [ laughter ] >> caller: i can't -- david gregory should be ashamed of himself, and i really think they need to change it to meet the pushover. and the democrats have to understand that that's how grover got his power is flying under the radar. nobody knows who this guy is. >> stephanie: that's right. >> caller: some of these senator are realigning themselves with him now. >> stephanie: i know. >> caller: they say i would break the pledge, but now -- i can't remember the one senator's name, but he called up and grover just gave him a what for, and he goes i'm sorry. i'm sorry. i'm like are you kidding me? >> stephanie: sorry grover. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: you should never have to say sorry to anybody named grover. >> exactly. >> stephanie: all right. we'll get the latest on what charlie pierce thinks on the fiscal cliff and much more as we continue on the "stephanie miller
obama will use it and they requested the meeting with the president. they want to urge with them on the solutions for the fiscal cliff. they will meet with white house speaker john boehner. in the meantime the white house is rejecting the latest proposal. house republicans send it to the white house yesterday their republicans plan does not increase tax rates which the white house insists must be included in any deal. >>> they are trying to make california public schools green. they will update the efficiency of public schools in california. it's being introduced by an assembly woman. the recent funding would come from proposition 39 and it comes from a fund. >>> police say 44-year-old john roady robbed the class sunday night. he took computers and other electronics. police recovered some of those during his arrest. he was on probation for burglary and now he faces new charges. >>> we have a car versus a dear at the paradise east bound. it is backed up and running, here is a look at the east shore freeway and mcarthur maze no dislace, traffic is flowing -- no delays, traffic is f
with president obama. they are both republicans and democrats. they all want to know how he's going to handle the fiscal cliff crisis. they will also meet with john boehner. boehner counter proposal yesterday. $600 billion in cuts in entitlement and $250 billion in changes in way the government changes inflation that would impact social security. let me bring in the national journal from the editor. good morning. i want to talk to you about this republican proposal saying republicans in congress want to get serious about asking the wealthiest to pay slightly higher tax rates. we won't be able to achieve a significant balanced approach to the deficit. it does have some revenue in it, even though it's not from tax increases. so what does this opening offer say about where we are in these negotiations? >> well, it seems very difficult to imagine that we're going to be getting to a deal that will handle everything that needs to be addressed before the end of the year. i think the first main thing that needs to be addressed is the question of the tax cuts expiring. and for the obama administration
you. >> sticking with the cliff, governors are set to meet with president obama and congressional leaders. the meeting coming one day after the white house rejected a republican plan for averting the cliff. chi chief washington correspondent john harwood is outside of the white house this morning. how do business leaders change the equation? >> reporter: the president is trying to orchestrate a consensus behind his approach to deficit reduction. this is a group part of the national governors association executive committee. a diverse group. he carried three states he represents and governors include scott walker, leader of conservative government reform movement going after public employee pensions and shrink government obligations that way. governors are pragmatic. the president is trying to make the case if you look at polls and revenue needs of the government and ageing of our population, the pragmatic thing to do is trim entitlements. the significance of speaker boehner's offer yesterday he put specifics on entitlements on the table. they are significant raising the medicare e
president obama has seen these polls. so if there is a fiscal cliff and we go over it, the american public are likely to blame the republicans. >> well, that's absolutely true, piers. we've had an election and the clearest debate and the clearest difference in that election was over the question of whether the rich should pay more and tax rates should go up on the rich. everybody who paid any attention at all knows that the top 2% are now taking home a larger share of total income and wealth in this country than they have in over 80 years and are paying the lowest effective tax rate they paid in over a half a century. we also have a looming budget deficit. so you don't have to really be a rocket scientist to understand that the rich do have to pay more. taxes do have to be raised on the rich and i think that's why over 60% of the public in these polls are not only supportive of a tax increase on the rich, but also will blame the republicans if we go over the fiscal cliff. and this gives frankly, this gives the white house and this gives the obama administration much more bargaining leverag
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